Episode 13: Dr. Zynul Dion Khan - It’s never too late or early to develop a healthy lifestyle

As our lives progress, many of us are surprised to find that we may acquire elevated sugar issues or even full blown diabetes. That can surely get in the way of your Bloom! I don’t know about you, but I like the idea of controlling body changes in a natural way without medication.

Dr. Khan is a Sports and Exercise medicine physician who has focused his career on the treatment and prevention of non-communicable and lifestyle diseases such as Diabetes, Hypertension and Obesity.
Using the methods learnt in Exercise medicine and his extensive training and experience working with sports teams and athletes for the last 10 years, Dr. Khan has developed courses that help ordinary people of all ages who are struggling with having diabetes, or being pre-diabetic, or who have struggled with losing weight and want to challenge themselves to live a healthier life.


Dr. Khan has had success in helping his clients achieve their personal goals with exercise, healthy food choices and lifestyle interventions to manage stress and sleep.

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Sharman Nittoli: 0:00
Welcome to the Live Your Bloom podcast where I interview people stepping out of their comfort zones to fulfill old dream seeds or plant new ones, regardless of age. And I also interview people who have specific interests or programs that could benefit us on our journey to Bloom, like my guest today. Dr. Zeno Khan is a sports and exercise medicine physician who has focused his career on the treatment and prevention of non-communicable and lifestyle diseases, such as diabetes, hypertension, and obesity. Using the methods learned during his extensive training and experience, Dr. Khan helps his clients achieve their personal goals with exercise, healthy food choices, and lifestyle interventions to manage stress and sleep. Welcome, Dr. Khan.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 0:52
Hi. Hello, Sharman. Nice to meet you.

Sharman Nittoli: 0:56
And I'd like the listeners to know that we are talking to you in Trinidad, true.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 1:01
Yes, Trinidad and Tobago in the southern side of the Caribbean.

Sharman Nittoli: 1:06
Where we have the exact same time because when he booked this for nine o'clock in the morning, I love morning appointments. And then I realized his time is the same as mine. Terrific. So, you know, I have in my family, and I'm sure everybody's family, has experienced with the three communicable and lifestyle diseases that you mentioned; diabetes, hypertension, obesity. And so, if there is such a thing that there could be help and a cure from just changing your diet, your exercise and your food choices, I know a lot of our listeners would welcome that. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your background? And how you came upon this career choice.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 1:49
Sharman, let me start off by saying thank you so much for having me on your podcast, it's, it's a real pleasure to be on your show. First, we start talking about my choice for going into this. Well, I worked as an emergency physician for greater than 10 years. And during this 10 years, I saw a lot of diabetics coming into the emergency departments with significant diseases, and some of them lost their limbs, or some of them had kidney failure and heart attacks, and very out of control on their sugar, right. And then I saw young people under the age of 30, who came in with heart attacks and were obese. And it really broke my heart to see these young people who have these massive diseases that's going to take them for the rest of their lives. Now, in addition to that, I've been working with national sports teams in Trinidad and Tobago for the last 10 years. I volunteer with them. And I've been training as a sports and exercise physician during that period. And I constantly talk to my athletes about nutrition and what they need to do in terms of exercise. And I see these very fit young men and women who are, you know, doing these amazing sports, and really are amazing people themselves. And I go, but why can't I bridge the gap between these two? And what are these young people doing that is different from what the rest of the population is doing. So I then dive, by then one of my friends came to me a few years ago and said, Hey, I have diabetes, out of control. My blood sugar is all over the place and you know, my doctor has told me I'm going to have to start taking insulin. And that was devastating for him because he didn't want to do that he was in his early 30s. So I told him, "Look, let's do something together". And I started with him using exercise, using diet, using lifestyle changes, we started managing the way he ate, his portion sizes. Even the habits he used for eating, we started exploring all of this. And together we started, I was able to start a course called Defeat Diabetes. Right? And from there, this is where it grew. So as I started reading all the books, I started looking at the research, looking at the nutrition and slowly pulling out what is the most important thing that all of these things taught, and put them into one course that I teach regularly now. Now one of the things I found is that information is always confusing, right? It's always there's so much of it. One of the biggest ones we know about is the edible egg. How that has been vilified throughout the decades, right? First you didn't you could eat it then you couldn't then you're able to eat the white, then they avoid the yolk and then suddenly know it's normal again. That is how confusing nutrition is and I understand where it's coming from because the science is constantly updating or changing. But that is not what the general population knows what they see Is what is being published by mainstream media. And that in itself has its own problems in terms of the confusion it creates. So as if you're a diabetic or you're you're obese or you have hypertension, what do you do to treat your disease? And these diseases are lifestyle illnesses. In other words, what you do in your life is what led to you having diabetes. Do you get it becoming overweight? Hypertension is a little different, but still, it does have a massive lifestyle element in it. So why are we hitting these diseases with medications and surgery and think this is a cure, when then the problem is, is not what the medications are, what the surgery does, but if your lifestyle hasn't changed, you're still eating incorrectly, you're still eating large portion sizes, you're still using the wrong foods. So instead of using whole foods, you're using processed foods. And then your choice of what you're eating, you know, more carbohydrates versus more vegetables and fruits, all of those things have a greater impact, right. And then the other thing we do is we emotionally eat, with distracted eating, we're doing all these things that are leading to higher levels of intake of foods, right? So by the end of the day, you don't realize you've taken a surplus of calories. I know your body has to take those calories and put it somewhere and what does it do, it puts it into fats. Now, that's where the problem starts, though we develop, we start putting on weight. And then we continue on this this constant cycle. Right? Now, diabetes is very much, we've learned over the last two decades that is very much an inflammatory response that causes it and that inflammatory response comes from carbohydrates. Taking too much carbohydrates into your diet. So by lowering your carbs, carbohydrates, just one thing, just the carbohydrates, it leads to a decrease and a better gut sugar control, right? And eventually, you can probably be able to lower your medication and even stop some of your medications. I've done this with patients. I've had one of my close friends was having the same issues, hypertensive, diabetic out of control for years, massive headaches, neck pain, and he came to me and said, "Hey, I want to do your program". Now. He picked up marathon running. Now he's gone to a full Keto diet. He's using intermittent fasting regularly. He's gotten from fasting two days a week. So he's working to doing a full seven day fast. He is he is now on no more medication. He stopped his medication some five months ago, about two months after he started my program. And since then, his blood sugar, and his blood pressure have been under regular control, and he hasn't had a headache, or neck pains in five months, and he has a stressful job. And he says even on the job. He says his blood pressure never going above 120. He doesn't feel overwhelmed. And he feels like he's making an amazing day. by just doing the things I've showed him, increasing his exercise or decreasing his carbohydrates, putting more fats and vegetables and fruits into his diet. So what I mean my thoughts I'm talking about a healthy type, olive oil, coconut oil, fish, fatty fish, avocados, those things are good and complex fats that your body takes a long time to digest. And they also make you feel full for a long time. All of these simple things can lead to any diabetic, any hypertensive taking absolute control of their disease. And if you're overweight or obese, this leads to weight loss. I tell my patients all the time, I will show you how to do what things you need to build your foundation to achieve weight loss and deciding factors, you will lose weight, right? So my goal is never weight loss. My goal is always, "Can I build that foundation that helps you to create that healthy lifestyle. And then after that, you can do anything you want and know you will succeed". You want to take up a diet, you want to start a keto diet, you want to start that Mediterranean diet. And I'm not promoting any of these diets. I'm just saying if you want to try any of these, suddenly they become accessible and you're successful in gaining control over these things. And that's what I teach.

Sharman Nittoli: 9:47
Well, do you ever find really stubborn resistant clients that just give you a really hard time and don't adapt to these changes because I believe in all of this totally. And I and I try to live it, but I don't always succeed. But I find the older we get, the more it becomes pronounced in my life. But I, I still know there are people who are quite stubborn about making these changes. What do you have to say to them?

Dr. Zynul Khan: 10:15
Oh, yes, they're there. I called your stubborn clients all the time. Like, we have just recently had a young lady who was morbidly obese, which means her BMI was above 40. And her her thing was, "Oh, I love my sides. Right? And, as I know, what is happening there is that she is in denial, she is at that stage where she's gotten so accustomed to being that overweight, and to being that size, that she's turned a deaf ear to accept it, and she hides from the fact that she has a problem, right? For those patients is go slowly. I know that in there, they want to do something. And what I do there is I say, "Hey, join me do what I'm telling you to do. And you'll see changes". And when they start start to see those changes is when they start to realize that this is possible. It's something I call "breaking the loop". You know, that mindset is, yes, that mindset is in there. You know, it's constantly your brain telling you a new telling yourself, "Hey, I can't do this, I can't do this, this, I've tried this before. It didn't work. I've tried it several times before it didn't work". All of those things are just beating us down. So we have to get past those things. And that's what I do with my patients. I help them to get past that by seeing results. When they see after two weeks, three weeks, they're suddenly seeing, "Oh, wow, I feel more energetic. Oh, boy, I'm exercising, Oh, I'm eating healthier. Right? When you see I'm sleeping better Oh, my skin is clearing up. Oh, amazing!".

Sharman Nittoli: 11:46
And when I want one of the big things that I find, I'm sorry to interrupt you, is just having that energy. Because the older you get, you cannot rely on your old habits of just jumping out of bed and doing what you got to do and having enough energy to get through the day. You do get tired and what you eat has so much to do with feeding the energy to live the lifestyle of design that you want to live. As in my program, I say to Live Your Bloom. But you know, even for myself, I find myself when I don't eat right come three or four o'clock, my mind's not working sharp enough, I do a lot of computer work. It's just not sharp and I feel like I need a nap. And then it becomes very hard for me to get up and get back to work. And I know it has to do with the lifestyle choices.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 12:34
Yes, it does. And what what I do my problem also is I teach people how to sleep more comfortably how to feed your brain by omega fatty acids and adding vitamin B 12, melatonin, how to get those things in there how to increase the fats, the healthy fats into your diet that feeds your brain. You see your brain operates on fatty acid energy, it uses a little bit of sugar, but mostly fatty acids. So as soon as you increase those omega fatty acids, you notice that you sleep better, your brain is much more active. And when you add vitamin B 12, which is a fat soluble vitamins, if you're eating foods that are high in vitamin B12, like like leafy vegetables and so on, you can't absorb that unless you have some form of an oil as a medium to get into this. I tell my patients, "Use olive oil, make a nice vinegar, red dressing, add spices that, you know, add like black pepper or even Cayenne, or rosemary, any of these spices added to oils added a bitter get given some flavor and add it to your salads. And that helps you absorb this may be 12 better. And that way you get more of it into your body". Now you only need a minimum of these vitamins. But by doing this, you add fats you add that B 12 and you add energy for your brain, so you sleep better. And you realize you wake up more energetic. The only thing about sleeping, this one I learned a few months ago, is what do you think before you go to sleep. So all of this is part of your lifestyle. If you're, if you're mentally not prepared is a big part in what is happening to you. So the body is a whole, the brain isn't separate from the legs, it isn't separate from the heart and lungs, they all work together. So I don't believe in treating the body as just a separate organ or a separate disease, you got to treat the whole in order to manage the entirety of the person and to get that disease under control. So the brain is a big part. And I work with patients who have pain, and one issues with pain is the brain is contributing 50% of that pain. So I usually have to work on the psychology of what their brain is doing in order to help them to recover from their pain. So it is medication but unless your brain, it doesn't stop. And I said this is same it's the same thing of "breaking a loop". I got a break that "pain loop" and the same thing we're using it with diabetics or with people who are overweight. Were difficult patients, as you said, the difficult person who's been beaten down so often. One thing is, we are our worst enemy. We are our biggest critics. Right? And I need, and I teach my patients stop being your worst critic, you know, recognize that you're beautiful, that you're amazing. And that you can do this. So by showing results, what I've found is that difficult patient that stubbornness starts to fall apart, you start to see go away. Right? Now I see, I hear entrepreneurs that I have top businessmen talk about this stuff all the time in their business, and they're teaching other people that I'm like, why are we not doing this in health? Why are we not doing this with our health? We're using the same techniques. And that's all I'm doing. All of what I'm teaching here is what the most successful people in the world do every day. Sharman, yourself, I'm sure you do it, and you don't have to do it. 100% right. That is that is overwhelming.

Sharman Nittoli: 16:01
Well, I got to interrupt you and say I don't do it 100% agree. But listen,

Dr. Zynul Khan: 16:09
I agree with you.

Sharman Nittoli: 16:10
There is.... sometimes I find this is a world of people making negative connections, connections that don't serve them. You see it all the time. in politics, life education see it all the time. But when it comes to food, we do make that connection. "I need that. I need to feel better. I need my coffee in the morning". (And I do) but I cut it down to one cup instead of what it was because it wasn't good for me. And how easy you can fall into these negative connections like, "What do I need right now to feel good? Well, I need a Carvel hot fudge sundae". But no I don't know I don't so my husband have been retraining our eating habits to get that kind of good feel from really wonderful foods, good healthy foods, tasty foods, even finding good desserts, if that's what we crave, we feel like we want something sweet, we can make better choices than we were making instead of going for the the connection that is not going to serve us in any way. And you know what, it doesn't even really taste better than a good healthy salad or a nice balanced meal. Something, there's tons of spices that are out there that don't have salt, you can buy them so cheap and they don't have salt and they add so much to flavor.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 17:37
I agree Sharman One of the things about sugar is that people don't know that sugar and cocaine activate the same sensor in the brain. So that high you get from taking sugar, that euphoric feeling is the same thing as as what cocaine does to the addict. Right? But you're so you're you're addicted to sugar, because you're like holy cocaine addict is addicted to cocaine, right? So you got to get rid of get away from an addiction. And that's a challenge to break that addiction. So I love I love pepper. I don't know, I don't know if you if you can handle it, but I love cayenne, and jalapenos, and all those things. And I add them to my food all the time. And it replaces the salt for me. Right? Yeah, and people don't realize you're not supposed to be eating more than one teaspoon of salt a day. Right, which is about four to five grams of salt, right. And many of the foods we eat all those processed foods you find in the grocery stores, in packaged foods, they are high in salt content. And that is what you don't recognize you're taking and you may say I don't eat a lot of salt. But then you're taking in salt from everywhere else from every other source and you don't even realize it.

Sharman Nittoli: 19:05
When I watch how much salt Some people use. I'm remembering when I was young, I used to load up the salt on my food. I was addicted to the particular taste. And I have heard it said also from some doctors that someone recently said, most of a lot of your nutritional makeup is going to be set in the first 14 years of your life. This is what he told me. I was curious about your opinion about that, because, say for women, we are not knowledgeable about what to do to maintain the calcium in our bones to avoid osteoporosis. We don't find that out until we start to go through it much later. So if that's true, that's a heck of a thing. What do you think about that statement?

Dr. Zynul Khan: 19:49
I actually don't entirely agree with that. Yes. What do you eat in the beginning, what I think what he's talking about, and this is where it gets confusing, what he's talking about there is that you can become overweight or obese by what you eat in your earlier life, right, and the more you eat of that, so an obese child or overweight child becomes an obese or overweight adult. But I believe those things can be changed, right? You can adjust those things in your life. And I've seen it happen. Where doesn't matter what you eat as a child, and what you eat is now. What becomes harder is if you're an overweight child, or overweight adult, which we have. I mean, we were talking about saying that 45% of the world's populations of children are obese and overweight. That is crazy. But those children now become obese and overweight adults. And that's where it becomes difficult. They have a harder time losing that weight, because they have, what happens in childhood is that you, you don't grow fat cells, you make more fat cells, so they have more fat cells than a person who who is a skinny child, right? And therefore when they get older, instead of having, they have more fat to lose for more cells. And that's the problem. And that's why it's harder for them. But you can change your eating habits throughout life. Right? And we see people do it all the time. Yeah. First is my father in law. What's he eats when he was a young man is not what he eats as an adult, he eats two meals a day now and very healthy meals. Right. And but he when he describes what he did as a young man, oh, my gosh, I've seen teenagers eat, they can literally eat anything. You know, I have?

Sharman Nittoli: 21:35
Yeah, I used to say what my grandkids were here. We were, they would say what time are we eating? I say five o'clock? They would sit down have two bowls of cereal before? How do you do that? How do you do that? Yeah.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 21:50
I have two girls. One is four and one is 18 months. Yeah. And I see them eat like three meals in the evening. I'm eating a very small, some olives and some cheese. Yeah, possibly. And some eggs. And that's my dinner. And they're eating three meals, and they're still hungry. But they're growing little girls and none of them are overweight. They're growing quite sweetly, right. And it's super active. They're doing things I do yoga in the morning with with my daughters, and they're getting into poses I am struggling to find, right and you're just doing it. And because they have that flexibility they're that age, they're hyperactive, full of energy, they want to let that energy out. Right? So they eat and they take in more.

Sharman Nittoli: 22:37
But I will say and I know we talked about this before, is the actual eating habits, the taste for healthy food choices and the desire to be active happens when you're young, even if you come to a different recognition later on in life. And I know you're very involved with children, can you tell our listeners about that a little bit?

Dr. Zynul Khan: 22:59
Eating healthy can occur anytime in life, right. And as kids what the problem is that face the parents, as a parent I know this, s getting your children to eat healthy foods and making it fun for them. Right. And that's the goal to make it fun for them. So I make pancakes for my daughters all the time. Now, I don't need to cut back on the carbohydrates my daughters eat because they have a very healthy lifestyle. They eat a lot of fruits. This morning breakfast was watermelon and pineapple. Right? That was a breakfast for my daughters and then they'll have some pumpkin and peas at some point in time.

Sharman Nittoli: 23:31
And you know what else it's contributing to be in the day. But we make these foods exciting for them. We turn it into fun, right and that's the thing. Food should be fun. Make the pancakes into shapes. Fine other ways like you know, build a castle out f the fruits, right and then have them pick it off, make it the game making fun and they will at and then you also you know, know your children know what they like to eat, and then figure out how to make it healthy. mean, if they don't like broccoli, then fine. Don't give them broccoli, find another way to make the broccoli exciting. Add some cheese you know, made it in, in the rice. So it looks like part of the race. You know, whatever you do, try to make it fun. That's the other thing. Pediatricians recommend that a child shouldn't spend more than two hours of screen t me. If you're sitting in front of TV for more than two hours guess what? That sedentary behavior is contributing to their weight gain. That's the problem. sedentary behavior we know is a cha is the media is putting ideas into your child's head. Even all of the children's shows that they watch on Disney or whatever it is. There are values and character traits and attitudes that are being put into their head from those two hours. You know, it's a whole different thing than it was when we were much younger and watching what what they called at that those times "wholesome, healthy families". So different kind of thin right now. So when you, when you let the media raise your children, you may find that you, you may not be happy with their

Dr. Zynul Khan: 25:10
You got to be really into what they want and engage with them. I say I engage with my daughters all the time, I try never to ignore them. When you engage, you have such a rich relationship with your children. And that's the point. If you have a kid engage in activities, you engage in healthy foods, you engage in cooking and make it all fun. And suddenly, it all changes. And suddenly you have a healthy family.

Sharman Nittoli: 25:39
And you also have an activity you have activity projects or programs that you're involved in. I think we talked about run something, yeah. What is that called?

Dr. Zynul Khan: 25:51
So I'm trying to subdue something that's run International, that's called "Daily Mile". Right? You can check it up online. It's a website. Yeah, the Daily Mile. It's a program that started in Scotland, where a few teachers in the school got fed up of senior kids sitting in classes all day, and they just wanted them to move, they wanted them to become active. So what they did was they took the kids outside and have them go walk around the school field for one lap. And that's it, no changing clothes, no fancy shoes. They just go for a walk and you let the kids do what they want. They can walk and talk to each other. They could go and race each other. They can have little competitions, they could do backflips, cartwheels, anything they want, right? And then you go back to the classroom, and you do that once a day. One teacher said that she lost something like 30 pounds in a year like this, like with her kids everyday, she went out for a walk with the kids. Here's what they found. That in doing that activity, they saw increases in concentration, they saw children actually wanting to eat healthier, they saw decreases in weight, right? They saw higher energy in their kids. So doing that.... And this program, the Daily Mile has now gone from Scotland to I think 43 countries in the world. And there's some 3.4 million children, or 3.9 million children now doing this every day, the Daily Mile, right? And the teachers are involved, the schools are involved, the communities are involved, and everybody loves it. And it's just one simple thing, go walk around the school field. And that's what I'm trying to implement in Trinidad - implement a program like this in their schools, where they can actually monitor it, and, and show results. And it's a very simple program.

Sharman Nittoli: 27:45
And you know what else I think I know, as a ex-teacher, we always would teach - the theory here is that we teach the big subjects in the morning and some of the electives in the afternoon, if that works out, but truly after lunch, most children are just not as receptive to learning as they are in the morning. We used to try to do that if the weather permit or we just took them out, make sure they run around and get some activity. And they would come back, charged up energized, ready to at least to give us another hour to try to fulfill the curriculum. So it's a great thing. And of course, not just for children, but for everybody. Like you said the community.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 28:27
Yeah. And it was interesting that this is invented in Scotland. If you know the Scottish sweater, it's constantly gloomy, not not talking bad about Scotland is gorgeous. I've been there several times my degree is from Scott from the University of Glasgow. So I love Scotland. I love the Scottish people. But it's gloomy. It's gloomy a lot of the times and these teachers are getting the kids involved. You know if it's a little drizzle in the rain. Nobita kids love it running in a rain playing in the rain. They love it. Right? The problem with that is is they have to dry out afterwards. But other than that, you know, it can be done. And if you're doing it, I use I use the 80/20 rule, which is what they use in business 80% of the time, if you're doing the right thing, the 20% of the time, you can have fun, you know, so yeah, this kids might not be able to get out every day. But if they get out for three to four days of the week, they're getting it 80% at a time so 20% the time, they can't get out. No problem. Me my wife go on vacations all the time. And every time we go we go for three weeks, And we actually use weight on vacation. And we love to eat. I am a massive foodie. I love trying new things. We always hitting up different restaurants. We're looking for that small restaurant, that hole in the wall that has beautiful foods and enjoy everything. Guess what? We lose weight because when we go. Like were in Bruges, we were in Bruges a few years ago and we were there for three days. We parked the car and we didn't get back in the car until we were ready to leave Bruges. We walked everywhere we found bicycles, we go on a bicycle ride, we would avoid using the train, we would avoid using taxis and we would just walk. That is beautiful. Days are gorgeous. Doesn't matter it was raining, this matter if was cold. It is absolutely gorgeous.

Sharman Nittoli: 30:17
That sounds perfect. It's a wonderful thing. And I know I do the same when I go away, I try very hard not not to use a car at all and just walk,

Dr. Zynul Khan: 30:25
I'm starting something ensure that also called Living Well TNT, right? Me in about three others. And it's a walking football program or people that have over the age of 55. It's all about getting people who the elderly out and laying football, Living Well TNT we don't have the website add everything set up as yet. We're still in the infant stages of getting it going. We're now engaging with communities and o on to get them involved. But there is it's called Walking Football and there's an organization in the UK. and we've engaged with them, and they want to come down and show us how to do it.

Sharman Nittoli: 30:59
See that? I'll leave you with this too. There was a woman in the in the news yesterday, who's 70 years old. And her dream was always to be a bad girl for the Yankees, and they just hired her.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 31:14
Whoa, that's insane!

Sharman Nittoli: 31:16
We're gonna have to go now. But I do want you to tell the people how to contact you, I'm going to have your contact information right in the page. But if they contact you, what's the first couple things that you would recommend for them?

Dr. Zynul Khan: 31:31
Well, what I have, what I've created is I have a free giveaway, right? I give you something called "Zero to Hero, your 20 days to Blood Sugar Control". I will send it to you to put on your on your podcast. From there, you get a thank you. And if you if you find it useful, I mean, you can opt in with me. And you also will get a free one on one call with me, right? To discuss what is what is happening with you. Right. I will add all those things. I'm working on my website. It's under construction right now. But I do have pages sent you my landing page that you can use for them to have access to what my program is and a free gift.

Sharman Nittoli: 32:14
Oh, that's great. I'm looking forward to getting that myself. I'm always looking to make it better. Because the older you get the next 10-20 years are very, very important to me. And I want to live it in good health. And I need more energy to do that. This has been a joy. So thank you so much. This has been illuminating. Yeah, thank you.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 32:38
Thank you for having me. It's been lovely. I hope I'm getting diabetes awareness out there. I've tried to get people to get in a good healthy lifestyle. I do it every day by myself. And I want other people to do what I do.

Sharman Nittoli: 32:50
Right? Spread the joy in this. Like I say, I feel like I'm working on living my bloom and it feels so good at this point in my life that I want to share it, pass it on with other people. So it is multifaceted. Its nutrition, its health, its energy, its attitude. It's living with purpose. It's so so important, but to do all of those things, you need to eat right and have energy. So thank you so much.

Dr. Zynul Khan: 33:17
Thank you.

Sharman Nittoli: 33:18
Okay, happy blooming everybody. I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did.

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